Charlie Sykes

The Chris Cuomo Project

Chris Cuomo

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.5 • 3.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2023

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Conservative writer Charlie Sykes (founder and editor-at-large, The Bulwark, and author, “How the Right Lost Its Mind”) joins Chris Cuomo for an extensive and spirited discussion about the divided state of American politics, why grievance dominates reasoning, and how Joe Biden and the Democrats are losing the messaging war. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	You want to talk to somebody who is a real conservative and yet sounds like a Democrat.
0:06.8	What happened?
0:07.8	Hey, I'm Chris Cuomo.
0:08.8	Welcome to another episode of the Chris Cuomo project and the goal here is for you to
0:12.5	be a critical thinker, right?
0:13.9	Because you are.
0:14.9	And for you to have an independent mindset, not to get caught into the party silos.
0:18.8	And one of the really interesting ways to do that is to listen to people where this is
0:22.8	what they do is think about politics and write about it and cover it.
0:27.6	And yet, they now sound totally different than their label.
0:32.0	Remember, the extension of the party game is the label game.
0:36.0	Charlie Sykes, look him up, S-Y-K-E-S.
0:39.1	His website is called The Bullwork, but he's been with scripts.
0:42.0	He's on MSNBC all the time.
0:43.7	He's a conservative, okay?
0:46.3	He's a real traditional conservative.
0:49.6	He is not a Trump guy.
0:51.6	Why?
0:52.6	Because he believes Trump is an embarrassment to his party and an embarrassment to his values.
0:56.7	And he is also a metaphor for what's going on in America, the state of grievance.
1:01.9	Now, here's who I'm really hoping we'll watch this.
1:04.5	Look, everybody's welcome.
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