Charlie's Martyrdom Leaves No Room For Third-Wayism

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🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, Seth confronts one of the most uncomfortable questions facing the modern church: Can American Christianity recover from its widespread apathy? Diving headfirst into the rise of Third Wayism, Seth exposes how the hollow, neutered rhetoric of “don’t talk politics from the pulpit” and “both sides are bad” has infected pastors nationwide. Many of these same pastors once criticized Charlie Kirk for being “too political” or “too harsh”—yet after his death, a spark of revival ignited across the nation. Recorded live at the recent White Rose Resistance Gala in Orange County, this is the message Seth prepared and prayed over for a long time—one that cuts directly to the heart of America’s spiritual crisis. With clarity, urgency, and conviction, he turns to the early church fathers to reveal how Christians are actually called to engage the public square. If there was ever an episode to send to your pastor, it’s this one. Stand with us at Life or Death Con in Washington D.C. on January 22, 2026 — the frontline of Christian resistance! Special guests Steve Deace, Megan Basham, Abby Johnson, and Dr. George Grant. | Use code “Seth” for 20% off. https://lifeordeathcon.com/ FOLLOW Seth’s Rumble channel in case he gets kicked off YouTube: https://rumble.com/c/sethgruber HOST A SCREENING of Seth's documentary "The 1916 Project". This film exposes the hidden history of the secular moral revolution, and the architects of our current culture of death. Sign up your church to join the hundreds of churches screening this powerful film! https://the1916project.com/ Tune in to The Seth Gruber Show every Tuesday and Thursday. Understand not only the things happening in our culture but also how they became realized. Now streaming on all podcast platforms! Shop EveryLife, the ONLY diaper company rooted in pro-life values! Use code “Seth10” to get 10% off. https://everylife.com/discount/SETH10 To help Seth educate and expose culture to the evil of abortion so that every person has a right to be born, become an ALLY of The White Rose Resistance at https://thewhiterose.life

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0:00.0	Can American Christianity recover from widespread apathy?
0:07.3	And have you heard it?
0:08.9	It's called third wayism.
0:10.8	Third wayism.
0:11.8	Can pastors still get away with parroting?
0:14.0	Pastor Tim Keller's rhetoric that you shouldn't speak about politics from the pulpit and just do Jesus.
0:19.5	And there's good and bad on both sides of the
0:21.6	aisle, both ways, both sides. When Charlie Kirk was alive, pastors criticized him for being too harsh,
0:30.9	too controversial, too political, but when he died, a revival took place. I wanted to share this talk with you from the White Rose Resistance Gala that we had recently in Orange
0:46.3	County because it's a crucial and timely response to the baseless American Christianity that permeates our nation. I thought deeply,
0:58.4	I prepared this for a long time. And I thought it would be important to bring to you our
1:04.1	listeners here on the Seth Gruber show. So I'm diving into the deep rooted issue of third wayism and look to our early church fathers for guidance on
1:16.2	how Christians should be engaging in the public square. If there was ever an episode,
1:21.6	and I know I've said this before, but this was a unique talk for our donors and our supporters
1:26.3	at our gala. If there was ever a talk
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