Charlie's Last Long-Form Interview: Luxury Beliefs with Rob Henderson

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🗓️ 2 November 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Only a few days before his death, Charlie recorded a long interview with writer Rob Henderson about the idea of "luxury beliefs": Foolish ideas that elites embrace precisely because they are insulated from the consequences of believing them. They talk about Zohran Mamdani as the avatar of luxury beliefs, the "success sequence" that can bring people out of poverty, the "Dark Triad," and more. It's a wide-ranging conversation that touches many of the themes Charlie cared about most in his life.

Check out Rob's book "Troubled" at https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Troubled/Rob-Henderson/9781982168537

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0:00.0	My name is Charlie Kirk.
0:04.6	I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.
0:11.3	My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.
0:14.5	If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're going to end up miserable.
0:19.9	But if the most important thing is doing good, you will end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids to college. You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start a turning point USA College Chapter. Go start a turning point. You would say high school chapter. Go find out how your church can get involved. Sign up and become an activist.
0:39.0	I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.
0:41.2	Most important decision I ever made in my life.
0:43.8	And I encourage you to do the same.
0:45.2	Here I am.
0:46.1	Lord, use me.
0:48.1	Buckle up, everybody.
0:49.5	Here we go.
0:55.9	The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserve Gold, the leading gold and silver experts,
1:02.3	and the only precious metals company I recommend to my family, friends, and viewers.
1:09.2	Okay, everybody, very special conversation for you today. We are here with Rob Henderson. Rob,
1:13.5	great to see you. Charlie, I'm honored to be here. Author of this important book, Troubled the memoir of
1:18.2	foster care family and social class. I do want to spend time on this, and we will. You are also a fellow at
1:23.7	the Manhattan Institute and a prolific substack writer 75,000 subscribers. Congratulations.
1:29.8	Thank you, Charlie.
1:30.7	And I want to ask all about that. And you have a PhD from Cambridge.
1:34.8	That's right.
1:35.4	You know, I've been to Cambridge once.
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