‘Charlie Kirk Was Holding MAGA Together’ Conservatives WAR Over Nick Fuentes | With Dave Rubin

Piers Morgan Uncensored

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🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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ExpressVPN: Right now you can get an extra four months of ExpressVPN for free. Just scan the QR code on the screen, or go to https://ExpressVPN.com/PIERS and get four extra months for free. Following his appearance on The Tucker Carlson Show, Nick Fuentes has enjoyed an increased exposure recently, not least from a big New York Times profile claiming: “Fuentes Was Charlie Kirk’s Bitter Enemy. Now He’s Becoming His Successor.” The Tucker interview has caused a divide in opinion on the Right - but Fuentes himself is not really the main issue. It’s a battle over who controls the conservative movement, what it stands for, and ultimately what MAGA will mean after Donald Trump. Ben Shapiro is making the case that MAGA risks being captured by online extremists, just as liberals were captured by the ultra-woke, and that social media has conned them into thinking ordinary people will agree. But the other side argues that Trump’s entire coalition was based on one main principle: America First. Joining Piers Morgan to discuss is bestselling author and host of No Spin News, Bill O’Reilly, Christian commentator and YouTuber Zach Costello, News Nation’s Batya Ungar-Sargon, ‘Provoked’ author Scott Horton and host of The Rubin Report, Dave Rubin. Piers Morgan Uncensored is proudly independent and supported by: Oxford Natural: To watch their full stories, scan the QR code on your screen or visit https://oxfordnatural.com/piers/ to get 70% off your first order when you use code PIERS. Brooklyn Bedding: Enter our show name after checkout so they know we sent you! Visit https://Brooklynbedding.com for 30% off & use promo code PIERS! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.1	You can call me a Nazi, because if I'm a Nazi, then there's millions of young people
0:35.6	that are following a fucking Nazi.
0:37.4	I was going to send, Qu Quentes a copy of confronting evil,
0:41.7	but I don't know what basement he lives in.
0:44.2	And this guy couldn't stand up to me for two minutes.
0:47.9	I won't put anybody on my program that I think is manipulating the system.
0:53.3	It's interesting, you know, I've not platformed him consciously.
0:56.9	Is there a merit in getting somebody like Four Ennis-on,
1:00.8	acknowledging the big reach he has,
1:02.9	they can at least see those parts of his views properly challenged?
1:06.7	I'm slightly wrestling with as to whether it would be a good thing to do.
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