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🗓️ 4 October 2025
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to Brandon Tatum about his reaction to the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk; his frustration with conspiracy theories targeting Charlie's family, Erica, and Turning Point USA; his emotional struggle to honor Charlie's legacy while resisting calls for revenge; the backlash he faces from both the left and some on the right; his passionate defense of Israel during his viral debate with Dave Smith on Piers Morgan Uncensored, his concerns about deep divisions within the MAGA movement and the right as conspiracy theories, antisemitism, and infighting escalate after Charlie Kirk's death; the collapse of policing in blue cities like Chicago, Portland, and San Francisco and how failed sanctuary city and soft-on-crime policies devastate communities; the majority of black Americans actually wanting more police and safer neighborhoods despite politicians weaponizing race and white guilt; the quiet shift of black voters realizing their conservative values and becoming "activated" to vote Republican and support leaders like Donald Trump; and much more.
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| 0:00.0 | All right, joining me today is the host of the officer Tatum show. |
| 0:10.9 | My old friend Brandon Tatum, Brandon, welcome back to the Ruben Report. |
| 0:14.8 | Hey, Rubin, thank you for having me, man. |
| 0:17.4 | It's been a long time since you've been on the show, but it's been an even longer time since we've seen each other in person. And I'm wondering if you remember. I think I know the exact last time. And there's a reason I'm asking you up top. Can you jog your brain and see if you can figure it out? We've done a lot of. My memory is so doggone bad. It's insane. So I don't have a cook. |
| 0:38.5 | But I feel like it's been a long time day. |
| 0:40.5 | It has been a long time. |
| 0:41.9 | We've done plenty of events together over the years. |
| 0:43.9 | But I think the last time I saw you or you saw me, and there's a reason I'm mentioning this, was |
| 0:50.1 | at Candice Owens' wedding. |
| 0:53.0 | And we were sat between you and your wife and Charlie Kirk and his then girlfriend, Erica. |
| 1:00.0 | And I thought that would be an interesting way to start the show today because, obviously, |
| 1:05.1 | you know, to the backdrop of about two weeks since Charlie's assassination, everything's |
| 1:09.7 | been kind of crazy. |
| 1:12.6 | Candice has clearly gone in her own direction. How do you feel about generally, before we'll get into all the political stuff and |
| 1:17.9 | everything else, but how do you feel generally about what's going on in our space at the moment and |
| 1:22.5 | the personalities and obviously losing Charlie and just all the stuff that we're all kind of going through, |
| 1:28.5 | just like you and I, we go through this stuff real time on camera. |
| 1:31.6 | It's kind of nuts. |
| 1:33.5 | Yeah, Dave, you know, it's perplexing to me. |
| 1:37.0 | I think I'm starting to lose my mind at how crazy all of this stuff is going. |
| 1:41.9 | The conspiracies are out of control. The lack of support, |
| 1:47.3 | love and commitment or I would say integrity as it relates to Charlie Kirk, his family and |
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