Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

They say it takes a big man to admit he's wrong.

But I say it takes an even bigger man to admit he's never wrong.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you that bigger man, Eric Mataxis.

Hey there, sports fans.

This is the Eric Mattaxas show, or is it the Charlie Kirk show?

Who knows?

When you're dealing with the grand old man of media, Charlie Kirk, it's hard to feel like he's not interviewing you. Am I right, Charlie? And by the way,

Charlie, welcome. Thank you. Yes, you know, all my many decades of experience in radio makes

me well positioned to speak on these topics. Man, I remember you made your bones. I remember in the,

when, when Ike was going against Adley Stevenson, I will never,

I will just never forget that.

You got your wires crossed.

You went, when Harry Truman put up the newspaper.

Oh, and you said, you were there.

Do he defeats Truman?

I handed him the newspaper. You, that's incredible. It's hard to believe that you're, you're drinking the blood of young people to look so young yourself. Let's get serious for just a second here. We have an historic moment happening in America. You're close to the president and close to other people

who are close to the president and you have a particular perspective. I want to continue

talking to you about that from our first hour because I think it's important for those who do

not have that kind of access to hear what's going on on the inside. So let's

start there. What do you see happening around the president? What are what are his spirits?

What is the sense of where we go from here? Well, I think that he's in a fighting spirit, and that's exactly the correct posture.

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