In the Netherlands, when Corona crisis hit or the measures hit, there was this protest

group that sprung out of that called Virus Truth.

And they were taking Dutch government to court for the measures.

So I found that interesting.

So I was in court, I was audience, I was seeing how that evolved and I was at demonstrations.

And one of those events I met a Dutch lawyer, Charlie DeVrede.

And I have interviewed her here for some activism stuff that she does.

And we were talking about Assange and I said, well, I was in London in February.

I've been following that thing over the last years.

And she said, yeah, so did I.

So we decided to make an interview of her as a Dutch law professional observing what's going on with Julian Assange in London currently. So if people want to read up on my interviews, we have talked.

So the first conversation that we did today was Christian Rufferson of Wikileaks.

He referred to Nils Meltzer, who is the

rapporteur for torture by the United Nations. I have interviewed Niels Meltzer. And

well, Rufferson is a journalist. Another journalist that's involved with Julius and

the Sanchez's case is Stefania Mauritzi. She's an Italian journalist and she is the one

that's been working year after year in getting FOIA information through Freedom of Information

Act out in the Assange case. So she's doing FOIA requests to United States, to United Kingdom, to Sweden, to,

I don't know what other countries.

And she's managed to figure out that Crown Prosecution Service,

so the British prosecutors have actually instructed Sweden in things.

And that in Great Britain they got rid of evidence.

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