Charleston, Confederate Flags and the *Transparent* Empire
Media Roots Radio
Abby & Robbie Martin
4.6 • 827 Ratings
🗓️ 3 July 2015
⏱️ 109 minutes
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| 0:12.0 | BOR. This is a little intro, um, addendum to this episode, um, that Abby and I previously recorded. |
| 0:36.4 | We recorded it about a day or maybe two |
| 0:42.1 | days before the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage. And we probably would have |
| 0:48.1 | devoted the entire episode to that had we, you know, recorded it right when that happened. |
| 1:02.8 | But it was such an important ruling that we both felt that we needed to add a little update to this podcast because we're not sure when the next one is going to come out. |
| 1:06.5 | But it's fucking great news. |
| 1:10.7 | It's really rare in this country to actually get a Supreme Court ruling where so many people feel invigorated, empowered, accepted. |
| 1:23.1 | It's extremely unusual for this day and age with the level of cynicism than anybody who's a, |
| 1:30.6 | you know, even semi-woken up is operating at. |
| 1:34.6 | So, yeah, definitely an amazing time. |
| 1:40.9 | You know, a lot of people rightfully describe the Obama presidency as sort of a tokenistic, |
| 1:47.7 | you know, this is our first black president, it's a huge milestone, and while symbolically it was, |
| 1:53.5 | it didn't really usher in the change or, you know, the differences that we would expect. The symbolism sort of trumped the reality of that situation. |
| 2:03.8 | But in this situation, the ruling, I mean, while it is symbolic, you know, the idea of marriage being the state-sacioned union between two people is a symbolic sort of state construct. |
| 2:20.5 | It means a significant amount to most the people living in this country. |
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