Okay, I think we have to intro you now is major label recording artists, Charles Westie

Godwin, the big news.

You guys signed a big loud recently.

It was a matter of time before somebody woke up and kind of life changing moment for you,

I'm sure.

Then we had some fan questions about it too, but I got to imagine there was a lot of noise

and chatter and inbound stuff, but the decision, the fit, kind of the timing, did it all just

kind of match and kind of what were some of the things you were really excited about

to kind of sold you on the whole thing.

Yeah, a label was something that after I made Seneca, my first album did that independently,

stretched myself out to the absolute max and went into debt to make it, and after that

I was like, man, if I ever get the right opportunity and everything's right with a deal

or something, I would love to have that stress taken off my shoulders.

It did not happen between Seneca and How the Mighty Fall.

I had to make How the Mighty Fall again independently and it stretched me out again to the max.

How the Mighty Fall came out there in November 2021, and I talked to you all the next week.

When I talked to you all, that's when everything started, started having the first meetings

and stuff like that.

The whole label shopping started then in November of 2021, and it was finished in December

of 2022, is when I decided I was going to go with Big Loud, and there's a lot of folks,

a lot of ease, and some folks were maybe not 100% in on me, they weren't sure, they wanted

to see what I was working on, they wanted to cherry-pick, so that was something I really

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