Charles Sumner, Revisited (part 1)

Stuff You Missed in History Class

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History, Society & Culture

4.2 • 23.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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The first installment of the deeper examination of Charles Sumner's life begins with his early years, including his close relationships with Henry Wadsworth Longfellow and Samuel Gridley Howe.

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0:00.0	This is an I-Heart podcast.
0:02.5	Guaranteed Human.
0:05.4	Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production of IHeart Radio.
0:16.0	Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy V. Wilson, and I'm Holly Fry.
0:23.2	If you're one of the folks who has listened to every episode of our show going all the way back to the beginning, you have heard
0:28.7	how today's episodes are a lot different from the earlier ones. If you have not done that,
0:34.0	today's episodes, they're a lot different from the earlier ones. It is not just
0:39.3	that the show went through a whole series of other hosts from when it started in 2008 until
0:45.2	2013 when Holly and I came on, especially for the first couple of years. The episodes could be
0:51.5	really short, and sometimes they were based almost entirely on an
0:55.9	article from the House Stuff Works website. That's where Holly and I used to work and where the podcast
1:00.5	got started. If you go look at the How Stuff Works website today, there are disclaimers on it that
1:06.1	the articles were written in conjunction with AI technology. That, of course, was not the case when we worked there.
1:12.9	Generative AI did not exist in that way at that time.
1:16.2	No.
1:16.8	To be clear, our podcast is not being written in conjunction with AI technology.
1:23.0	Holly and I are human beings and are doing it.
1:26.0	Just to be clear.
1:27.4	To the best of your knowledge, I'm a human being.
1:30.8	What if Holly has been replaced by a robot?
1:34.0	What if I'm an alien? What if I was never a human?
1:35.7	Oh.
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