From Will, are you going to do any Taylor Swift talk on the New Heights podcast? No, I didn't watch it. I think I read something about it early this morning. It got what, like a million five downloads or something, the podcast?

1.2 million concurrent viewers on YouTube, which has to be some sort of record.

Yeah. I don't, I'm not like some that find her annoying because she loves football. I kind of

like Taylor Swift. I just, I honestly, I mean, it would not have been in my top 10, uh, to listen to

or watch her appearance.

And then we can talk about it next week when it's completely old and irrelevant.

Before we get back to the phone lines, I do want to play something for you.

Max made me aware of something and I've not heard it yet.

So I'm going to be listening to it for the first time with you guys as well.

Charles Robinson from Yahoo was a guest on the inside coverage podcast with Andrew Siciliano.

Andrew, you know, long time, you know, the Red Zone equivalent on the NFL direct TV package.

And Andrew was here, did some shows for a couple of summers here.

Good guy, the whole thing.

So he's got a podcast called Inside Coverage Podcast.

And Charles Robinson, long time NFL writer and reporter, talked for a few minutes about the Terry McLaren negotiations.

Here's what he said.

Contract in the realm of 30 that Adam Peters probably doesn't want to do it.

So, Charles, where are they?

Yeah, you know, I think it was, it was interesting to me because when I went in, in my mind,

I'm like, you know, is this really as bad as it sounded in some moments here?

Are they really in that tough of a spot?

And yeah, they are.

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