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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Charles Manson Cult Killer Walks Free: Victims' Kin Distraught

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime, News

4.2 • 8.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Leslie Van Houten was 19 years old when she and other followers of Charles Manson brutally killed Leno and Rosemary LaBianca inside their Los Angeles home.

Leno LaBianca had been stabbed 12 times with a knife and seven times with a carving fork. The fork stuck in his abdomen, and a kitchen knife in his throat. The word “war” had also been carved into his abdomen. Mrs. LaBianca had a total of 41 stab wounds on the front and back of her body.

Now after 53 years in custody, the convicted killer is free. 

Joining Nancy Grace Today:

  • Ava Roosevelt - Friend of victims who had been invited to Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski’s house (and was nearly a victim herself); Former Model and Producer for The Racing Heart Productions; Author: “The Racing Heart” available on Amazon; Contributor to Business Club Magazine
  • Anthony DiMaria - Nephew of Jay Sebring, Director of “Jay Sebring…Cutting to the Truth” 
  • Lis Wiehl - Former Federal Prosecutor and Author: “Hunting Charles Manson;" Twitter: @liswiehl 
  • Dr. Michelle Joy - Forensic, Clinical, and Academic Psychiatrist; Author: “An Illustrated History of the Insanity Defense;" Twitter: @Westphillymorbidart 
  • Karen Smith - Forensic Expert, Host of “Shattered Souls: The Car Barn Murders” Podcast, and Lecturer at the University of Florida
  • Dr. Jan Gorniak - Medical Examiner, Clark County Office of the Coroner/Medical Examiner (Las Vegas, NV); Board Certified Forensic Pathologist
  • Lisa Statman - Author: “Restless Souls: The Sharon Tate Family's Account Of Stardom, The Manson Murders, and a Crusade For Justice;" Twitter: @AlisaStatman  

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Cheryl McCollum, host of the brand new co-case podcast, Zone 7.

0:04.1

We're going to be talking to family members, detectives, prosecutors, and nationally recognized

0:09.1

experts that are in my Zone 7. The group of professionals that I've called on

0:13.6

to help me work hundreds of cases you've heard of and thousands you haven't.

0:18.0

We are going to solve these cases own air together. Listen to Zone 7 on the I Heart Radio app,

0:25.2

the Apple Podcast app or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

0:35.6

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

0:43.2

A cold, blooded, mass killer walks free, walking amongst us and no,

0:51.4

the mass killer did not scale the jailhouse walls to escape. There was no elaborate plan

0:58.4

to run free. As a matter of fact, she walked out on her own volition and has now turned into somewhat

1:09.0

of a media darling. A mass killer has walked free and the governor practically rolled up a red carpet.

1:23.6

I'm talking about a Charles Mattson cult killer. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

1:32.6

Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series 6M11. I want you to take a listen

1:39.0

to the Charles Mattson cult killer Leslie Van Houten. Listen.

2:09.1

When I thought of stabbing, I didn't really have the idea in my mind.

2:13.6

No idea in my mind. I was supposed to quote, mess her up. I took the knife and I started stabbing.

2:21.7

I turned into an animal and more. Listen.

2:25.7

It's a real feeling. It's not even like cutting a piece of meat. It's much tougher.

2:31.2

I had to use both hands and all my pressure, all my strength behind it to get it in.

2:37.2

I just kept doing it. I went into the other room and I noticed that there are things written on the wall.

2:44.9

There was pig and rice and filter sculptor. But I know that they were written in blood.

2:53.1

It's not like cutting a piece of meat. It's much tougher. I had to use both hands and all my pressure

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