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🗓️ 15 June 2021
⏱️ 23 minutes
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0:00.0 | From The Advocate Magazine in partnership with Glad, this is LGBTQ and A. |
0:10.4 | I'm Jeffrey Masters, and I think that when we talk about quote-unquote coming out, |
0:16.0 | that is not a precise way describing the queer or trans experience for many people. |
0:22.5 | We tend to tell these tight little narratives where you're in the closet or you're out. |
0:26.9 | It's black and white. |
0:28.3 | And for many people, it's not that simple. |
0:31.7 | Take Charles M. Below, for example. |
0:34.3 | Charles was married to a woman who knew he was by, and after that marriage ended, he dated |
0:39.0 | men and women. |
0:40.7 | So while he didn't publicly talk about these relationships before 2014, that was when his memoir |
0:46.6 | called Fire Shut Up and My Bones Came Out. |
0:49.7 | I don't think it's fully accurate to say that he was in the closet. |
0:54.5 | We have private and public coming out in life, always. |
0:58.6 | Sometimes something you have to do every single day. |
1:01.6 | And so today in the podcast, Charles is here to talk about that and more. |
1:05.7 | Charles is a longtime calmist for The New York Times, |
1:08.7 | one I've been reading for years, |
1:10.8 | and is also now |
1:11.9 | hosting a brand new nightly news show that is called Prime with Charles Blow and is on the Black |
1:18.4 | News Channel. |
1:23.6 | I want to start off by talking about your memoir, because in it you write about the term bisexual. |
1:30.0 | And you say that technically it's correct for you, but that you do not embrace or use that word. |
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