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The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

Charles Lindbergh, Lab Rat

The Disappearing Spoon: a science history podcast with Sam Kean

Sam Kean

History, Arts, Books, Science

4.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

When Charles Lindbergh's sister-in-law developed heart trouble, he teamed up with a Nobel-Prize-winning doctor to save her. He had no idea the dark paths his work would lead him down, including Nazi politics and eugenics...



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0:00.0

In 1928, Charles Lindberg had a spiritual crisis. One day while flying over Utah, he landed his

0:09.7

plane in the desert. He decided to camp there, rather than face the packs of reporters who would

0:15.0

hound him if he rented a hotel room. While lying in the sand, staring up at the stars, he thought, what am I doing with my life?

0:24.7

A year earlier, at age 25, Lindbergh had completed the first solo flight across the Atlantic Ocean.

0:31.3

He instantly became the most famous man on Earth. Four million people attended his ticker tape

0:37.4

parade in New York. Then, on a national

0:40.0

tour, 30 million more Americans attended lectures he gave, and Lindbergh hated every second of it.

0:47.3

He had not started flying to become a celebrity. Rather, he just loved tinkering with machines.

0:52.8

He often referred to his flights as scientific experiments.

0:57.8

So that night in Utah, he made a decision.

1:00.9

He had wanted to be a doctor as a child, but struggled in school and flunked out of college.

1:06.3

Now he would return to his first love and try medical research to help people. This decision involved

1:13.1

more than just personal fulfillment. Lindberg's wife had a sister named Elizabeth who had contracted

1:19.0

rheumatic fever during childhood. The disease damaged her heart, which could barely pump blood

1:25.1

afterward. Every year, she got weaker.

1:28.4

So Lindbergh decided to try and save her.

1:31.4

He would build a mechanical heart, a cardiac pump.

1:35.5

It seemed simple enough.

1:37.7

He had no idea what dark alleys this project would lead him down,

1:42.1

including a quest to make human beings immortal.

1:51.3

This is The Disappearing Spoon by Sam Keen, a topsy, turvy, sciencey history podcast, where footnotes become the real story.

2:08.5

After that night in the desert, Charles Lindbergh started asking doctors he knew for

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