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Charles Hoskinson Warns Partisan Politics Could Kill Crypto in the U.S.

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🗓️ 22 January 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Charles Hoskinson, Founder of Input Output, unpacks the state of the blockchain. Input Output Founder Charles Hoskinson joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to break down why network growth isn't reflecting in token prices and why he’s sounding the alarm on recent U.S. crypto legislation. Plus, he offers a warning to the industry about the potential weaponization of crypto legislation. - Read the State of Blockchain 2025 report commissioned by Input Output here: https://www.coindesk.com/research/state-of-the-blockchain-2025 - Timecodes: 01:26 - Unpacking the State of the Blockchain 2025 Report03:24 - Charles' Reaction to the Looming AI Bubble and US Economic Stability05:46 - How Close Are We to a Recession?08:14 - Charles on U.S. Foreign Policy and Greenland10:14 - Why Ecosystems Need Utility Over Marketing13:51 - The Problem with Current Crypto User Experiences and Who Has Done It Right18:05 - Lace ID as the Decentralized Identifier21:04 - Charles Reacts to Recent Criticisms from XRP Army23:05 - Charles on the State of Crypto Regulation25:57 - Why the Current Crypto Bill is "A Love Letter to the Banks"28:19 - Charles Calls Out Political Corruption and Weaponization of Crypto Policy - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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0:00.0

I will not accept the U.S. government telling me that the past legislation, you have to bribe people

0:05.1

or cut them million dollar campaign checks.

0:08.0

This is for the American people, the American industry, and the 55 million people who hold

0:12.0

cryptocurrency.

0:17.0

Value capture is shifted away from layer ones. A new CoinDesk research report reveals that while

0:24.1

layer one still holds 90% of market cap, they now capture only 12% of on-chain fees, explore the

0:30.8

structural changes defining 2026 from Bitcoin's post-quantum risks and Ethereum's roll-up economics

0:36.7

to the new era of compliant privacy with input outputs midnight at coindesk.com forward slash research.

0:43.9

Hey, everyone, you're watching CoinDesk, and I'm Jen Sanassi.

0:46.7

The state of blockchain report commissioned by input output found that layer one tokens broadly underperformed in 2025, despite regulatory and institutional wins.

0:55.8

Joining us now to unpack some of the key findings is input output founder, Charles Huskinson.

1:00.3

Charles, welcome back.

1:01.6

Jen, it's good to be here.

1:02.7

Thanks for having me on.

1:03.8

Yeah, as always, great to have you here.

1:05.6

Let's dig into some of the findings in this report.

1:08.7

Like I just mentioned in my intro, layer ones underperformed in

1:13.0

2025 when we look at the tokens, but network fundamentals like TVL and activity actually grew.

1:19.7

Just make sense of that for me. What does that mean? And what does that say about where

1:24.8

crypto is heading? Well, I think it's the great maturing of the industry.

1:29.7

You know, you saw first a lot of institutional onramps with the appreciation of Bitcoin.

1:33.7

It probably went from what, 60,000 to 120. I forget the all-time high. But it was very good year,

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