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Bad Gays

Charles Hitchen

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.6842 Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Subscribe to Extra Bad Gays on Apple Podcasts or Patreon to support our work, get monthly bonus episodes, and join our community of listeners! Let us take ourselves back to a very exciting time: we’re talking London, at the turn of the 18th century. The city is the largest in Europe, and growing - it’s passed the half a million mark and by the end of the century will have doubled. Crime was rife, and getting worse. The law was administered by a pay-to-play criminal justice system: and today's subject, Charles Hitchen, got rich playing both sides while touring through London's infamous "molly houses," back rooms of taverns or gin houses, where queer men could meet, cruise, and even fuck. These developed a much richer culture, with their own slang, faux marriage rituals, and drag performances including a queen giving birth to a wheel of cheddar cheese. ----more---- SOURCES: Gerald Howson, Thief-Taker General: Jonathan Wild and the Emergence of Crime and Corruption as a Way of Life in Eighteenth-Century England (Routledge, 1985) Peter Linebaugh, The London Hanged: Crime And Civil Society In The Eighteenth Century (Verso, 2006) Rictor Norton, The Georgian Underworld, https://rictornorton.co.uk/gu00.htm. Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicdesigner. This podcast may contain copyrighted material, and its use is under the principles of fair use for purposes such as commentary, criticism, and parody. All rights belong to the respective copyright holders.

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0:00.0

Thank you.

0:03.0

Hello and welcome to Season 9, Episode 3 of Bad Gays, a podcast all about evil and complicated

0:22.8

queers in history.

0:24.4

My name is Ben Miller.

0:25.4

I'm a writer and historian currently working on a biography of the fashion designer

0:28.9

Rudy Gerenrich.

0:30.9

And my name is Helemy.

0:31.9

I'm a writer and author.

0:33.3

Last week we talked about Dorian Corey, the fabulous drag queen and one of the main interlocutors

0:38.3

in the documentary, Paris is Burning, whose life helped us understand the history of drag

0:44.0

from enslaved people right after the Civil War all the way through till Rupal's drag race,

0:48.8

and who also had a mummifying body in her closet.

0:51.0

Who are we talking about this week, Hugh?

0:53.0

Let us take ourselves back to a very exciting time. We're talking London at the turn of the 18th

0:58.9

century. We're in the reign of Queen Anne, as played by Olivia Coleman, and we're on the

1:05.0

cusp of entering the Georgian era. The city is the largest in Europe, and it's growing. It's

1:09.9

past the half a million mark,

1:11.6

and by the end of the century all have actually doubled in size.

1:15.5

It was also changing from its medieval form. Its coffers were filled with trade to and from these

1:20.4

colonies, and the first wobbly steps of capitalism were starting to happen in the exchange

1:25.5

of stocks and shares in its coffee houses, and also the foundation of the first learned societies like the Royal Society.

1:33.3

Now imagining the first wobbly steps of capitalism is resembling the wobbly steps of those

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