Hey everyone welcome once again to the Conversations that Matter

podcast I am pleased to have a guest on today that many of you have actually

asked me John can you have this person on? John, check out this video that he did

with Tucker Carlson. Check out this video or this article that he wrote on No Enemies

to the right and all these different views that are being debated right now.

His name is Charles Hayward.

How are you doing?

Charles?

I'm doing great and pleased to be here.

Yeah, and the website, if people want to check out more of your work after this,

is the worthy house the worthy

house dot com you're a businessman you call yourself an internet scribbler I called you a political

philosopher but what you're doing I think is fairly it's interesting to me I just want to say

this before I ask you some questions and we hear you from you I've listened to a few

of your interviews Charles and the thing I think that people find endearing about you is that

One thing is you don't care about what other people think am I right? This is true

Okay, and you're very honest, you're sometimes maybe blunt, but you say what you think.

And what you say are sometimes things that need to be said that other people, they think them but they're not going to say them.

And so there's a bravery element to this as well. And so I appreciate that.

Let's not overstate that. I mean the reason I can say these things is because I'm

independently wealthy and don't have me points of vulnerability. So you know let's not

subscribe something to virtue that's more people circumstance. Okay all right well you're. Okay, all right. Well, you're humble too now.

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