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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Charles Eisenstein: Serving the More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know is Possible

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2018

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Charles Eisenstein is an author, speaker, and "degrowth activist" whose books include The Ascent of Humanity and Sacred Economics, among others. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Charles and Tami Simon speak on the many crises currently facing the planet, from the increasingly urgent issue of climate change to the loss of meaning and trust in the center of civic life. They discuss the two fundamental mythologies of our time—"the story of separation" and "the story of interbeing"—and how many people feel like we live according to both at once. Tami and Charles talk about the wounding at the root of cynicism, and how the best way to ensure a brighter future is to give ourselves over wholly to the service of the planet. Finally, Charles speaks on his new book on climate change, explaining that he thinks the real work of ensuring a better future will come from unexpected sources. (70 minutes)

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

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At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

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learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

0:14.3

At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves

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as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, guest is Charles Eisenstein. Charles

0:46.2

is a public speaker, a self-described de-growth activist, and also the author of several books, including Sacred Economics and

0:57.4

The Assent of Humanity, Civilization, and the Human sense of self.

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In his most recent book,

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the more beautiful world our hearts know is possible.

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He relates real life stories, showing how small individual acts of courage, kindness, and self-trust

1:18.4

can change our culture's guiding narrative of separation, which he shows has generated our

1:25.1

present planetary crisis. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Charles and I

1:31.0

spoke about the two mythologies of our time, what he calls the story of separation and the story of inter-being, and how often we feel like we're occupying both stories at once.

1:47.6

We talked about cynicism, about our collective future, and how this cynicism really comes from a wound and the

1:57.1

vulnerability it takes to give ourselves completely to serving the more beautiful world our hearts know as possible.

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We also talked about how the question of identity is really at the root of bringing together our inner spiritual life and our life of activism

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in the world.

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And finally, we talked about Charles's new book on climate change and why he believes that positive change will

2:26.1

come from the margins. Here's my conversation with Charles Eisenstein. Einstein.

2:35.0

Thank you, Charles, for making the time for this.

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