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Thank you everyone for tuning in. Let's kick off the show. Now today we have a frequent visitor Charles Duhig with us. He's a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and the author of the power of habit and smarter better faster.

Now we had Charles on the show a little while ago. That's episode 735, the best ways to rewrite bad habits if you want to check it out after this one.

Now today we're talking about his podcast. How to with Charles Duhig and it just celebrated its first anniversary. Johnny and I really dig the show especially the two recent episodes how to talk to strangers and how to stop procrastinating. It's a fantastic format and it's just a lot of fun to listen to.

Welcome to the show Charles. It's good to have you back. Thanks for having me. I'm really psyched to be here. Yeah, we've really enjoyed your podcast and researching for the show and last time we talked about building habits and breaking bad habits.

And we're halfway through 2020. Obviously a lot of time to create some new habits and breaks and bad habits that would have you worked on so far.

A lot of time. So let's see, I just a month ago I moved from Brooklyn where I lived for the last 16 years to Santa Cruz, California because my wife got a new job.

And so that's obviously moving during a pandemic has its own challenges to begin with. We had to sort of move the entire podcast operation.

So I had to like set up a new studio. And but on the other hand, being here and just being in a pandemic, it kind of gives us this like wonderful opportunity.

Great new habits because all our old cues and rewards are suddenly gone. And so it's like a blank slate in a lot of ways for building new behaviors.

Yeah, we've talked to a lot of our clients who not having a commute have reoriented their morning routine, their evening routine.

I just wanted to add to that as well. When this all came down, how long it was going to last was a bit nebulous for everybody.

But we all sort of had an innate feeling that this was going to be more of a marathon than a sprint.

And with that comes the psychological experiment that none of us had asked for of being an isolation not having our routines taken from us.

For myself and my own sanity, I realized that building any more new routines and figuring out a way to keep my old habits was going to be beneficial for all of this.

And my friends and the people who I've seen around me who thought this was just going to be Netflix, Benjing for a couple of weeks and back to work.

They're having major problems.

Absolutely. And this totally ties I think you're exactly right. And this ties into like what we know about psychology, right?

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