I get excited to be on with you, man, just because I know we go have some lively conversation. We're seeing right now, and there is a way that privileged white males who used to be president are treated. A lot of everyday people aren't going to feel sorry. You know, for him to be screaming that, you know, he's being treated so unfairly and it's like, not necessarily. To pick you up on that, Shalermain, that's why I asked you, is it good for America? Have you decided yet who you're going to vote for? Yeah. Would you like to share it with me? I've never been to a Diddy party. Trump was trying to hide things. He Diddy was trying to hide things too. I think race is a factor in Caitlin Clark. But, Pizz, you have to admit, whenever you see somebody excelling in a field that that race doesn't usually excel in, you know, it is heightened.

He's a media mogul, a bestselling author and star host of The Breakfast Club.

Self-styled is the most dangerous morning show in the world. and having been on it, I can confirm it is pretty dangerous. In a world of spin and nonsense, Charlemagne the God, deals in straight-talking facts, and his new book, Get Honest or Die Lying, is billed as an antidote to small talk from small minds. So once again, Charlamagne the God is uncensored. Charlaman, great to see it. Pierce. What's up, man? Good to see you again, too, man. I love an early plug. I love it being bold. A little shameless self-promotion. You know, got to do that on a big black. Well, you know me. I'm all in for shame with self-promotion.

And what I loved about the book, it said it critiques the prevalence of superficial

conversations and advocates for deeper, more meaningful dialogues to address societal

divisions and personal unhappiness.

Because I totally agree with you.

I think social media has made everyone

talk and think and debate in sound bites. We've lost that ability to do what I did with you

when I came on your brilliant breakfast show in New York. We just had time. You know, we had a 90-minute

conversation. We could talk about stuff with nuance, with layers.

And it seems that we've lost that ability. People have kind of forgotten how to have longer

conversation. Yeah, not only have we lost that ability, we're putting everything on the same scale.

And, you know, when I talk about small talk, I'm saying how we take a lot of these, you know,

minor issues and we make them these big, these big macro issues. We take these small things and

make them, you know, big things. So when the actual big things come across our desk are, you know,

the big things are up for discussion. We don't even know how to talk about them if we talk about them at all

because everything is literally on the same scale. So things that are small are held to the same

level of, you know, politically is, you know, things that are big. One thing I was struck by,

I watched you do an interview with CNN, I think, a few days ago. And I could see that you were kind of irritated by constantly being kind of, I guess, in your eyes,

wheeled out as a spokesman for all black people in America because of your great influence from the show and so on.

I totally got that.

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