He's a multimedia phenomenon and when politicians stopped by his breakfast show, the radio show, they seem to always make headlines.

What did you do specifically for black people?

What I'm saying, saying travel made is black poverty

drop faster than everybody else. And if you have a problem figuring out whether you're

for me or Trump and you ain't black what's something that you always carry with you?

Hot sauce.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah. Now listen, I want you to know people are going to see it and say, okay, she's pandering

the black people.

Okay. Is it working? What were you listening to when you was high?

What was on? What was on?

Oh my goodness. Oh yeah, definitely Snoop. Uh-huh. Tupac. For sure. Yeah, those are some of the bigger and

brighter moments. It got you laughing Charlemagne.

Charlemagne, the God's new book is out. It is great. It's called Get Honest

or Die Trying Why Small Talk Sucks. It's available

everywhere right now. Sholman, welcome to our studio. Great to see it. It's Die Lying. Get

honest or Die Lying. Oh, you're right. Yes, yes, you're mixing the 50-cent title with die lying. Oh, you're right.

Yes, yes, you mix in the 50-cent title with the book title.

But that was my inspiration for the title too.

But the thing is, why does small talk suck?

Small talk sucks because it's just a waste of time, you know,

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