Charlamagne Critiques NLP and the Cost of Thinking While Black
Native Land Pod
iHeartPodcasts and Reasoned Choice
4.6 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 23 October 2025
⏱️ 125 minutes
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Summary
On episode 102 of Native Land Pod, hosts Tiffany Cross, Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum, and Bakari Sellers are joined by Charlamagne Tha God, host of The Breakfast Club, to talk about the controversy NLP stirred up with our “anti-intellectualism” episode last week. Our hosts also cover Trump’s grifting, a call for a general strike, and an update on threats to the Voting Rights Act.
Trump is seeking $230M in damages from his own Justice Department for investigations into him, the 2016 Russia-election-interference investigation and the investigation into his handling of classified documents. Is it likely that he’ll actually get this money?
The mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, has called for a general strike to push back against the actions of the Trump administration. He is the highest ranking public official to do so. We’ll hear his call to action and ask: what does it realistically look like for us to withhold our labor en masse? Are we ready for that??
Charlamagne Tha God has some criticism for our NLP hosts regarding the segment we did on Marc Lamont Hill, Queenzflip, and the Joe Budden Podcast last week. Charlamagne’s criticism mirrors many of the comments we’ve received. Our hosts respond to the critiques!
A quick explainer on the threats to the Voting Rights Act, please check out the special episode we did last week…
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| 0:05.9 | This season on Revisionous History, we're going back to the spring of 1988 to a town in northwest Alabama, |
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