You feel a connection to the Joggen A? I mean, in a way, you're acceptable.

That's very interesting. Yeah, and the more I know about her and the more I hear about her,

what a fun child. John tells me hilarious and sweet little stories about her. And I can

see through her photos that have been through so many of his personal photos of her that

it's absolutely true. This child, every photo that I've seen of her with another child, she has her

arm around the other kid, smiling. And she was obviously had real, maybe leadership,

and certainly a great dynamic personality for a little girl her age. I have one of her little

gloves sitting on my desk and little pictures over here and there. Not long after we were married,

I had a very poignant dream that she was, had a little black night gown with red roses and she

was dancing in the hallway. And she came and curled up in my arms and I just rocked her and I looked

at her face and she looked like a little sweet baby dough. And it was a sweet, long, touching dream.

I wish I could have given it to John.

Welcome to episode 12 of the killing of John Bene, the final suspects. I'm your host, Danielle

Robé. The voice you just heard was out of Jan Ramsey, wife of John Bene's father, John,

after investigations that have seen us take a deep dive into lately detective

Luc mitt's database of suspects for the murder. In this final special episode, our team is going to

meet up with John and Jan Ramsey as well as John son John Andrew to discuss just what progress we've

made and what more can still be done. Well, we have news. We have gotten back the DNA reports

on Rick Gardner. And he was in one of the earlier episodes. We brought him up as being a passable

suspect. So Rick Gardner was a suspect because he worked at pasta jays and later on he had visions of

Jean Bene coming up from the sidewalk and he accused his employer, J. Allowsky, of the murder.

But his handwriting became of interest and focus. So he became a suspect. And for years now, decades,

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