Chapter One: The Reporter

Caliphate

The New York Times

Religion & Spirituality, News, History

4.8 • 14.7K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2018

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Editors' Note [Dec. 18, 2020]: The Times has published an Editors’ Note concluding that episodes featuring a central character in “Caliphate” did not meet our standards for accuracy. Read the full statement. Rukmini describes the reality of being on the terrorism beat and why she brings trash bags with her to the frontlines of the war against ISIS.

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0:00.0	The early chapters of this series focus on a man we refer to as Abu Hus-Safa al-Khanadi,
0:07.3	who claimed to be a member of ISIS and said he had committed multiple murders while in
0:13.0	the Islamic State.
0:15.0	In several episodes of this series, we documented his story, as well as our efforts to verify
0:21.5	aspects of it.
0:23.4	In September of 2020, two and a half years after this podcast was released, the Canadian
0:29.6	police arrested Hus-Safa, whose real name is Shairo's Choundry, and charged him with
0:36.4	perpetrating a hoax.
0:39.0	That charge led the times to conduct its own investigation, which found a history of
0:44.6	misrepresentations by Choundry, and no corroboration that he committed the atrocities he described
0:52.4	in the Caliphate podcast.
0:55.0	As a result, the times has concluded that the episodes of Caliphate that presented Choundry's
1:01.7	claims did not meet our standards for accuracy.
1:06.4	In this feed, we've published a conversation with the executive editor of the Times, Dean
1:11.9	Bakeh, where he discusses the original reporting in Caliphate, and what the times has found
1:19.0	in its re-examination of the story.
1:49.0	Hello.
2:07.0	Hello.
2:08.0	Can I jump in a closer?
2:11.0	Hello.
2:12.0	Yeah.
2:13.0	Here we go.
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