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Chapter 8, The Hearing. Oh man we are we are getting into

some real business uh up in up in order of the phoenix here uh this i i feel like the reason

that people are hazy about order of the phoenix is just how hard it is like established. Like the things are

bad so things can get better situation is is very thick. Yes, it is. You know, and it's like the

opening. Like a lot of times I always think that like Harry's being kind of like moody and like whiny.

Yeah.

Uh, through the beginning of Order of the Phoenix.

And that is true, but he has just about every right to feel that way.

Right.

I mean, it's like, especially going through it the way we have been, you really feel the pain he's going through.

You do. You do. And it just continues to ramp up for a good

while to come. I know. It's like, it's not going to slow down. I don't know. I'm like, uh, at the very

least until what chapter's like six, 16, but even then not entirely. I mean, I just opened the chapter 23 Christmas on the closed ward,

which means like Arthur is attacked. Right. I mean, Occlimacy, 24. That's still bad. Uh, what do we

have here? The centaur and the sneak. Right. Well, the beetle at bay ends up being kind of,

kind of helpful there at 25 because that's like when you get like the Quibbler article. Yeah. And you start to see like a little bit of like resistance rising. They start to have some victories. But like the the umbrage of it all really takes quite a while to be defeated. It does. It does. Yes. Yes. I think that's what makes her such a formidable

villain and also why her ultimate defeat is just so, so delicious. Yes. Yes. It is.

But speaking of Humbridge, obviously, she's very vital for this chapter in particular.

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