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Order the Phoenix Chapter 33, fight and flight.

Aha, we're in it. We're in it now. Yeah. We have now caught back up to ourselves in the most

unusual way because we've actually done this chapter once before, um, live in Denver,

Colorado. Oh, yeah. I know. Yeah. The last time we did this chapter was actually way back on March 7th. So it has been over a month. We are now recording this one on

April 14th. I know. Yeah. So, so fascinating to see kind of like the the amount of time passed,

but then also like just going through,

reviewing all my notes and everything. It was just kind of like, oh, this is, this is very,

it's very cool. It's like an old friend. So as for always, we got to take a look at the chapter art, which gives us sort of like a full bodied side profile depiction of Dolores Jane umbridge,

which I got to say, I do not think is doing her any favors. It is not doing her any favor.

She looks as squat as ever. She's definitely shorter than both Harry and Hermione. I love the

confident, the upright confidence with which Hermione is striding towards the forest. She is like, like a girl with a plan, you know? She, yes, which is kind of interesting because she is for Hermione, who I think, you know, if you were to go back to sort of that like book one version of Hermione, you've got like the, you know, another plan to get us all killed or worse, expound. You know, and like,

this is now Hermione directly defying a professor in the name of basically like running her out.

Yeah. You know, so I mean, it's like, this is very high stress for Hermione. It's a, it's a huge step

away from like where she began the story. But also, I think it's kind of hilarious because we've, we've kind of got that like running gag where Hermione is like always catching up. And here she is depicted as walking proudly out front. I know. Instead, it is going to be Umbridge who is going to have the ragged breathing, barely keeping up with them. Yes, yes. What I do this thing is absolutely hilarious. But also with Umbrage, as, as I so often knew with the chapter art, I went through and drew a few flies over her head, both for both for the toadness and also just because I, I generally tend to believe that she's got like a stank about her. Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about that. There's no doubt about that. I've actually, I've been, I just started listening to the full cast audio edition of Order of the Phoenix. Yes. And I have arrived at Hall Gwarth and I'm actually in the middle of Umbrage's first class right now. And if you didn't know, umbrage is being voiced by Keirard Knightley, whom I could not describe as more opposite in appearance from what I imagine umbrage to look like.

It is absolutely shocking. Like when I saw that casting, I was like, no, that must be a mistake. It was like that has to be a mistake. It must be someone else. How was she doing? Oh, she's absolutely crushing it. It is so hard to imagine it's even her doing the voice. Really?

Yes, it is like, there's no way this is Kira Knightley.

There's no way.

And it's just like, yeah, it's very good.

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