Chapter 30: Grawp | Order of the Phoenix
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🗓️ 29 March 2026
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Join J and Ben as they dive into Chapter 30 of the Order of the Phoenix and discuss the swamp, Filch “punting” students, anti-Umbridge mayhem, Ron’s relationship with his family, Hagrid taking Harry and Hermione to the forest, interacting with Grawp and them blindly agreeing to help.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, dear listeners, I'm Jonathan Carlin. And I'm Benjamin Carlin. And we invite you to join us through the Gryffindor, |
| 0:24.9 | your one-way ticket to the enchanting world of Harry Potter. So grab your wands and dust off your broomsticks and join us as we unlock the dark corridors inside. |
| 0:33.6 | Order the Phoenix. Chapter 30, grop. Grop, grop indeed. Oh my gosh. This, um, as a chapter, this is, it's got like a flavor of setup about it. There is, yeah. It's a big setup chapter. Big set up chapter. Big set up chapter. Like the third act here. Yes. Yes, indeed. Um, but the other kind of like really big thing that I keep thinking about with this chapter is like as I was going through, I found that I was highlighting lots and lots and lots of lines because there's a lot of like plot to to follow as you go through. But I wasn't having like, I have plenty of notes, but like they're less lore heavy notes in terms of like, oh, this is set up for that. |
| 1:11.9 | Or like, oh, this is going to translate back later. |
| 1:14.1 | But I think the really big thing about chapter 30 grop is the giant. |
| 1:20.5 | Yes, the giant. |
| 1:21.4 | The really giant thing. |
| 1:22.4 | Really big thing. |
| 1:23.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:23.5 | Is not necessarily Grop himself. |
| 1:25.7 | But it has a lot to do. |
| 1:27.4 | Again, we talk sometimes about like, literary architecture of the story or whatever. |
| 1:32.3 | And across the entire series, there is kind of like a couple of interesting examples that I'd like to like lead off with here. |
| 1:40.4 | Because we know in Prisoner Basketball, and we're introduced to the Time Turners.. And the time turners are kind of like one of those. Once you've introduced time travel into any fantasy world, you kind of always have to account for it. Right. Like if why aren't you using it more often? Yes. Like if anything goes wrong, it's like, why don't we just time turn our way out of this and try again with a new tactic when we know like what they're going to do? |
| 2:02.5 | So obviously here in a couple chapters, we're going to destroy all of those, I think three or four chapters. |
| 2:07.3 | We're going to destroy all those time turners just as like a way to get rid of it. Right. Um, the other thing that I think happens in a mega saga like this is in book one, you are introduced to one of the series's most beloved characters. |
| 2:19.6 | The one and only Rebaeus Hagrid. mega saga like this is in book one, you are introduced to one of the series's most beloved |
| 2:19.0 | characters, the one and only Rebaeus Hagrid. Indeed. And Hagrid poses a similar kind of |
| 2:26.1 | situation where he's so integral to the plot in book one and people fell in love with him so much |
| 2:31.8 | that Hagrid needs to have something to do throughout the entire |
| 2:35.6 | series. And if you're going to go through the effort of including him in the story, it almost |
| 2:41.7 | always needs to have plot relevant payoffs. Right. And it seems like, especially in the first book, |
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