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Wakanda Forever: The Official Black Panther Podcast

Chapter 2: Kevin Feige, Nate Moore, Ryan Coogler, Joe Robert Cole

Wakanda Forever: The Official Black Panther Podcast

Marvel Entertainment

Tv & Film, Film History, Film Interviews

4.7787 Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The story of Black Panther: Wakanda Forever emerged out of the very real death of Chadwick Boseman, the actor who played T’Challa. But there was an earlier version of the script, a different story written when no one involved in the movie knew that Chadwick was gravely ill. Ta-Nehisi Coates is joined by director and co-writer Ryan Coogler and co-writer Joe Robert Cole to discuss the original screenplay, the changes they needed to make, what makes a Black Panther film, and their special collaboration on both movies. Ta-Nehisi also talks to producers Kevin Feige, President of Marvel Studios, and Nate Moore, Executive of Production and Development, to learn about the 22-year journey to bring Black Panther to the screen and what excites them about Namor, comic book storytelling, and making movies. Wakanda Forever: The Official Black Panther Podcast is a production of Proximity Media in collaboration with Marvel Studios and Marvel Entertainment. The series is written and hosted by Ta-Nehisi Coates. Produced by Paola Mardo. Executive Producers are Ryan Coogler, Zinzi Coogler, Sev Ohanian, and Paola Mardo. The film score is composed by Ludwig Göransson. Story editing by James Kim. Audio editing by Cameron Kell and Cedric Wilson. Sound design and additional music by Pat Mesiti-Miller. Audio engineering by Lauryn Newson. Production assistance from Polina Cherezova. Learn more at ProximityMedia.com and by following @ProximityMedia, @Marvel, and @MarvelStudios on Twitter and Instagram. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is streaming soon on Disney+ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Black Panther first appeared in comics back in 1966. This was Marvel's heyday. Spider-Man,

0:16.0

the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, the Incredible Hulk, the Avengers, Daredevil.

0:23.6

All of them are products of the 1960s.

0:26.6

You can kind of feel it too.

0:28.6

When I was a kid, it was widely held that if you were a black comic book fan, you read Marvel.

0:33.6

Marvel was the real world. It was the street. It made perfect sense to black comic book

0:40.3

fans that cops would always try to arrest Spider-Man, that the X-Men were hated and feared,

0:45.3

that Tony Stark would be an alcoholic, that Bruce Banner's rage would be world-breaking.

0:50.3

So there was always something appropriate about the fact that the first superhero of African descent in mainstream comics would be in Marvel comics, because Marvel felt real.

1:00.9

And in any real world, there had to be black superheroes.

1:06.9

I don't want to overstate this.

1:09.3

The fact is that until Christopher Priest took over the title in the early arts, there really was no definitive Black Panther run, and there's no defining events which rang out across the Marvel universe. No Phoenix Saga, no death of Gwen Stacy, no secret wars, no scourge of the underworld. For a writer, this presents a problem.

1:29.2

Comics are a heritage.

1:30.9

Creators take over a title and bring their own ideas all while deepening the older and more

1:35.4

familiar stories.

1:37.1

So Ed Brubaker and Steve Epting bring Bucky back from the dead, but as the winter soldier.

1:42.7

Jonathan Hickman takes the X-Men's outcast tradition and pushes it to its separatist extremes.

1:48.5

Brian Michael Bendis creates Miles Morales, all the while building on the legacy of Peter Parker.

1:54.4

This is as true in the movies as it is in the comics.

1:57.9

But when director Ryan Coogler began writing the first Black Panther film with

2:01.7

co-writer Joe Robert Cole, they didn't have that same deep well of stories. The result

2:07.3

is that what you see in the first Black Panther film and in Wakanda forever are characters,

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