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My real regret of all of this is that there is no camera in the federal courts.

If this case were televised, it would be on every network.

You know the first couple times that I was in court and El Chappo comes out and escorted

by US Marshals, it was sort of almost an awe-inspiring moment where there's a hush comes over

the courtroom and everybody's looking really intently.

All eyes are on this guy.

But I got to say that you know as the weeks have worn on, that allure has worn off sort

of and every day he seems just more and more like a normal human being.

But it's probably safe to call him a mass murderer.

You ever catch those mass murder eyes?

Have indeed he has sort of a full-bore stare and El Chappo's wife and McCorn El sits

right behind us.

And I sort of had my back turned to the courtroom and was making small talk just a

chitchatting with his wife and I could see her sort of looking over my shoulder and I

turned around and he had been trying to get her attention but I was talking to her and

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