Chaos theories: Why are we never prepared for disasters? – Ros Taylor asks Jeff Schlegelmilch

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 28 December 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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From pandemics to natural disasters, terror attacks to global warming, it seems the world is becoming more disastrous by the minute – and government responses consistently fall short. Why aren’t we ever prepared? Ros Taylor speaks to Jeff Schlegelmilch, director of Columbia University’s National Center for Disaster Preparedness Director and co-author of Catastrophic Incentives: Why Our Approaches to Disasters Keep Falling Short. • “The disasters we think about are the photogenic ones… but the ones I worry about are the slower creeping disasters, like drought and extreme heat.” — Jeff Schlegelmilch •“Intelligence predicted 9/11, it was just missed” – Jeff Schlegelmilch • “In developing environments, charities are essentially providing government services and subsidising failed states.” – Jeff Schlegelmilch www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Ros Taylor. Producer: Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:00.0	Hello and welcome to the bunker you're need to know on news and politics seven days a week.
1:09.0	I'm Ros Taylor. I'm the kind of person who's always catastrophizing. My expectation is that the worst will happen and that there's no reason why I should be spared it.
1:17.0	But most of us aren't like that. We prefer to assume that there isn't going to be another big pandemic in our lifetimes,
1:23.0	or that the sea won't rise high enough to affect our homes.
1:26.0	Jeff Slagamouch is director of the National Center for Disaster Preparedness
1:31.0	at Columbia University, so he spends an awful lot of time thinking
1:34.3	about this.
1:35.3	Welcome to the bunker Jeff.
1:36.3	Thank you for having me.
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