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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Chaos continues with Trump-Musk cuts to USAID

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

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4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: U.S. inflation worsens with rising grocery and gas prices. Plus, Senate Democrats push GOP on Trump’s economic agenda. Also, the Trump-Musk USAID freeze puts HIV treatment in Africa at risk. Rep. Melanie Stansbury, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, and Declan Walsh join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0

Now it's time for the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell. Good evening, Rachel. So the Democrats are doing everything they can. You know, I haven't been one of those people complaining about why aren't they doing more. And it may be because I've internalized just how much powerlessness there is in a congressional minority. When you're in the minority in the House, minority in the Senate, and when I worked in the Senate, I served in the minority for six months, and I could not

0:26.7

take a seventh month of it. And that's what I left. But I wanted to know what it was like in the

0:33.6

minority. And it's utter powerlessness. But you have these kinds of moments of basically

0:40.0

seizing the Senate floor on a nomination like this and making your point and driving home your

0:44.9

point. They also today did something else that I've been waiting for. I've been expecting.

0:49.8

They're not allowed to hold hearings. Technically, hearings can only be convened by the chairman

0:55.2

and the majority party. But the Democrats on the Foreign Relations Committee held what looks like a

1:00.5

hearing. It's not a hearing. It's actually not in a hearing room, but it really looks like one.

1:04.5

And all the Democrats showed up, no Republicans showed up, to hear real experts who formerly worked at USAID,

1:13.4

explain to them what is really happening,

1:19.4

what Elon Musk is really doing. And I think we're going to see more of those kind of informal hearings that Democrats in the House and the Senate will be having. They are going to be, I think,

1:26.3

as important, if not more important than the official hearings that committees are having.

1:31.1

Because what the Democrats did in that unofficial hearing today, which we're going to be showing a lot of later in this hour, is more important than anything we heard in the official Republican-controlled hearings.

1:45.1

And so they're doing everything they can do in this very strange condition of being in the

1:52.3

minority in the Senate in the House.

1:53.9

I mean, I feel like, you know what?

1:56.3

They all still have constituents.

1:58.0

They all represent hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people. And the one

2:03.2

thing for sure that doesn't work is doing nothing. And if it's really important that something

2:09.4

get done, no, you can't guarantee that everything you're going to do is going to have X outcome,

2:14.1

but do everything you can. You never know exactly what impact you're going to have.

2:18.8

Try everything. And try everything fast in the case of somebody who's trying an authoritarian

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