Changing the World Through Stoicism and Discipline (with Ryan Holiday)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9 • 648 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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On this episode of Change Agents, Andy Stumpf sits down with author and host of the podcast The Daily Stoic, Ryan Holiday. He has written several bestselling books, including The Obstacle Is the Way, Ego Is the Enemy, and Stillness Is the Key, which blend Stoic philosophy with modern life to emphasize resilience, discipline, and self-awareness. He’s also the former Director of Marketing at American Apparel and later founded the creative agency Brass Check, advising major brands and bestselling authors. His latest release, Wisdom Is the Way, is the fourth book in his Stoic Virtues series, following Courage Is Calling, Discipline Is Destiny, and Right Thing, Right Now. Follow Ryan on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryanholiday The Daily Stoic on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Hollow Socks For a limited time Hollow Socks is having a Buy 2 , Get 2 Free Sale. Head to http://Hollowsocks.com today to check it out. #HollowSockspod Mizzen and Main Get 20% off your first purchase at https://www.mizzenandmain.com with promo code IRONCLAD20 Delete MeDeleteMeGo to https://www.joindeleteme.com/IRONCLAD and use coupon code IRONCLAD, or scan the QR code Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	they would put you in this box.
0:03.2	Yeah.
0:04.2	They're restricted.
0:05.2	Oh, yeah.
0:06.2	Yeah, so they put you in the box and then they would basically just shout at you, get
0:09.3	your head out of the box, get your head out of the box.
0:11.7	And so obviously when he's later put in in the leg irons and then what they would call the
0:18.7	rope, so they'd chain your legs and then they'd lift you by.
0:23.3	You can imagine he's getting, like I think one of the things he said they would have him do.
0:28.2	I don't know if they still do this.
0:29.2	I haven't gotten to this part yet.
0:30.1	But like, they would go like, okay, you're a nine-year-old boy and you're walking to school.
0:35.8	Instead of thinking about what's happening to you right now, walk to school in your mind.
0:41.4	And so they're saying get out of the box.
0:43.6	Like don't be where you are, which is claustrophobic and horrible.
0:46.7	You have to kind of transcend this situation.
1:00.6	Welcome to change agentsents, an Ironclad original, presented by Firecracker Farm.
1:06.5	I am joined today in person by Ryan Holliday, best-selling author, thinker, and one of the most influential voices bringing stoic philosophy into modern life.
1:10.4	Through books like The Obstacle is the Way and Ego is the Enemy,
1:14.0	he has shown how ancient ideas can shape how we live, work, and lead today.
1:18.9	Let's get into the show.
1:28.7	What are you going to write next?
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