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99% Invisible

Changing Stripes Revisited

99% Invisible

SiriusXM Podcasts and Roman Mars

Design, Arts

4.8 β€’ 27.5K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 29 April 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

At the January 6th Capitol insurrection, rioters waved Confederate, MAGA, and Trump-as-Rambo flags. Easy to miss without knowing the design was a bright yellow flag with three red stripes β€” the flag of South Vietnam.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is 99% invisible. I'm Roman Mars.

0:08.3

Nearly 50 years ago to the day, one of the darker chapters of American history unceremoniously came to a close.

0:17.6

Saigon, April the 30th, 8 o'clock, the last American helicopter on the roof of the American embassy

0:23.8

prepares to lift off the last of the evacuees fleeing before the advancing communist armies.

0:30.4

The United States had pulled direct military involvement two years prior, but the Vietnam War

0:36.2

officially concluded when Saigon fell to North

0:39.1

Vietnamese forces. As that chapter ended, a new one began for nearly two million South

0:45.8

Vietnamese refugees who fled to new countries in the decades after. We decided to mark the 50th

0:51.6

anniversary of the fall of Saigon by rebroadcasting an episode from the archive about the afterlife of a flag and how its meaning, for better or worse, continues to evolve long after the country it represents no longer exists.

1:08.0

Just to note, this episode does talk about the January 6th attack on the Capitol.

1:12.6

Since this story first aired in 2021, Trump has pardoned every single violent insurrectionist.

1:20.0

Nothing factually about the original reporting has changed. We just wanted to say that they were

1:25.3

violent insurrectionists, whether they are in prison or not.

1:38.9

I'm sorry to do this, but I'm going to take you back to January 6th, 2021.

1:44.0

I can see at least half a dozen protesters scaling, literally climbing.

1:49.9

A violent mob of Trump supporters attempted to overturn the 2020 election results with physical force.

1:55.8

They broke into the Capitol, disrupted the electoral college vote, and occupied the building for hours.

2:01.1

Like most of you, I had my butt clenched that day, watching the insurrection unfold on television.

2:07.5

Producer Vivian Lay.

2:09.2

I also happen to be watching that news coverage with my mom.

2:12.8

I see every channel. I watch ABC. I watch CBS. I watch CNN. I watch Fox. Every, every perspective.

2:25.0

This is my mom, by the way. Do you want to say hi to my boss real fast?

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