Changing Minds about Women in Ministry (#286)

Religion on the Mind

Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality, Religion

4.7 • 542 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2024

⏱️ 72 minutes

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John and Linn Haralson discuss their journey from complementarianism to egalitarianism regarding women in ministry. As long-time members of their church community, I've witnessed their progression firsthand, making this behind-the-scenes look particularly interesting. We explore the complexities of changing deeply held beliefs within a marriage and church leadership context. Lynn shares how events like the Charleston massacre in 2016 catalyzed her shift in perspective, while John describes his more gradual journey, influenced by leaving the PCA and reading William Witt's "Icons of Christ." The couple candidly discussed their "don't ask, don't tell" period and the personal costs of their former beliefs. We also delve into the challenges of guiding a congregation through such a significant doctrinal change, including the anxiety preceding the church vote and the intentional process of education and discussion. Their story illuminates how changing one's mind on theological issues is a deeply personal process affecting relationships, community dynamics, and individual spiritual journeys. Highlights: 05:14 Different Perspectives on Gender Roles 19:42 The Cost of Changing Beliefs 35:24 Living with Complementarianism within Marriage 59:03 Validating Grief and Loss within Complementarian Beliefs John and Linn's Church | graceseattle.org Dan's new Substack | Religion on the Mind ___________________________________________ Get Tickets for the PREGAME EVENT before Theology Beer Camp! Get Tickets for Theology Beer Camp 2024 Use Code ReturnofYHP for $50 off your ticket! ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle. co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:34.3	Welcome, everybody, to You Have Permission, the show that aims to take very seriously, both Christianity and the modern world of science and culture.
0:43.8	My name is Dan Koch. I'm a licensed therapist and a post-evangelical, liberal Protestant.
0:49.2	It's trying to make sense of this messy world. And I'm joined today by two people who have helped me do that for much of the
0:55.2	last 15 years. John and Lynn Harrelson, thank you guys for being here. Delighted to be here.
1:00.4	It's great to be here, Dan. Yeah. Super fun. So, John, you have been the head pastor of the church
1:07.7	that Jeffrey and I have been involved with for most of the last 15 years.
1:11.7	I'm going to get into a little bit of that here. We took a little break. We're back now before we
1:16.0	move, we move our family north and then have to figure out if we're going to go Episcopal or
1:21.2	what's going to happen. That's kicking. They don't have to decide that yet. That's coming.
1:26.4	This is a conversation about you guys changing your minds and then the church,
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