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🗓️ 18 July 2025
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In this solo recap episode, Vanessa breaks down the top takeaways from her interview with one of the world’s leading experts in body composition and metabolism — Dr. Mike Ormsbee, Professor at Florida State University and Director of the Institute of Sports Sciences and Medicine.
Dr. Ormsbee has published over 200 peer-reviewed papers and is globally recognized for his pioneering research on protein intake, nutrient timing, and metabolic adaptation. This recap explores the practical strategies from his decades of research to help you not only lose fat — but actually change your body shape by preserving lean mass and boosting metabolic health.
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Why fat loss alone doesn’t change your body shape
How to avoid becoming just a “smaller pear or apple”
The minimum daily protein intake needed for recomposition
What the science says about pre-sleep protein (and why it won’t make you gain fat!)
Resistance training as the non-negotiable driver of body transformation
The PRISE protocol: protein pacing, resistance training, sprints, stretching, and endurance
How women — especially through menopause — can benefit from higher protein and performance goals
Whether you need 3 meals… or 6 (and how to choose what’s best for you)
Ormsbee et al., Pre-Sleep Protein & Resting Metabolic Rate (J Int Soc Sports Nutr, 2022)
Arciero & Ormsbee, PRISE Protocol Trials (multiple studies on protein pacing & multimodal training)
Ormsbee et al., Body Composition Study in Bariatric Patients — Muscle preservation with high protein + resistance training
Position Stand on Nutrient Timing (ISSN, 2017 – co-authored by Dr. Ormsbee)
“I’ve never done a protein study in women that showed a negative outcome on body composition — ever.” – Dr. Mike Ormsbee
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Optimal Protein Podcast. I'm Vanessa Spina. |
| 0:04.6 | Hello, my friends. Welcome back to the podcast. I'm your host Vanessa and I am so excited for |
| 0:10.1 | today's episode. We are going to be recapping and serving up all of the top highlights and |
| 0:17.1 | actionable takeaways from my interview with Dr. Mike Wormsby, one of the leading experts |
| 0:23.8 | in protein metabolism, fat loss, and muscle building, and sports nutrition. He's published over |
| 0:31.1 | 200 peer-reviewed studies, many of which have completely shifted the way that we think about protein intake, |
| 0:39.9 | nutrient timing, and how to truly change your body composition, not just your weight. |
| 0:45.6 | We had some fascinating moments in this podcast that completely changed the way I think about |
| 0:50.7 | how to actually change your body shape, especially if you're pear or apple |
| 0:55.9 | shape. And he actually got me wanting to try eating protein right before going to bed. |
| 1:03.0 | Will that actually make you gain fat or could it make you leaner than you've ever been? |
| 1:08.6 | We're going to dive into all of it in today's recap episode, |
| 1:12.6 | bringing you all of the top highlights and takeaways from the interview so you can just have |
| 1:18.1 | all the actionable information to apply into your life today. So I can't wait to get into |
| 1:23.4 | this recap episode with you all and we will jump right in after this quick break. |
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| 2:03.8 | health and beauty, and even our metabolic health and fitness, so much is connected back to |
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