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🗓️ 8 October 2021
⏱️ 55 minutes
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How fixed are we in our ways of being and doing things? We're always confronting change, but how much can we choose it? These are some of the big ideas through small moments Jade Chang tackles in her Audible Original, You've Already Changed Your Life: A Recipe for a Revelation. Jade is a friend of the podcast, deep thinker, and author of the excellent novel, The Wangs vs. The World.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Call Your Girlfriend, a podcast for long distance besties everywhere. |
0:06.3 | I'm Amina Tussaud and I'm Anne Friedman. |
0:09.0 | Hey Anne Friedman, what's up this week? |
0:11.6 | I'm so excited about today's episode because it feels very classically phonofrend, which |
0:17.7 | like maybe it's worth saying at this point that way back in the early days of CYG we did |
0:24.6 | regular chatty episodes with the two of us and then we broke them up with episodes that |
0:28.7 | we called phonofrends, which were just literally us calling our nearest and dearest. |
0:33.7 | And we've gotten away from that a bit because there are just so many people we want to talk |
0:38.2 | to out in the world and as the podcast has gotten bigger, like some of them will talk to |
0:41.9 | us. |
0:42.9 | But like today's episode is really a classic phonofrend. |
0:46.8 | I chatted to my excellent pal Jade Chang, who you might know is the author of the best |
0:52.7 | selling novel, The Wangs vs The World. |
0:55.7 | She also writes for television, she wrote for the Netflix babysitters club show and has |
1:00.8 | a couple of other things coming up. |
1:03.4 | And she's someone who I really think of as not just a close friend but like a kind of |
1:07.8 | fellow creative traveler, wait a creative fellow traveler, I'm not sure which order to put |
1:12.2 | those in. |
1:13.2 | But she's the kind of person I like find myself getting into these like super deep or |
1:17.4 | like maybe kind of abstract philosophical questions with about like the nature of you know, |
1:22.9 | what makes us who we are and like where do ideas come from and like I don't know like |
1:27.6 | she's one of those friends where I can just lose hours talking to her. |
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