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We Can Do Hard Things

Chanel Miller Promises: We are Never Stuck

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

1. Thinking of depression as a way of seeing the world … through toilet paper roll binoculars. 2. Why healing might actually just be permission to go. 3. Chanel’s definition of success: refusing to succumb to perfection or exhaustion–and showing up as herself in every moment. 4. The healing moment when Chanel returned to Stanford and was held in sound–which set her free. About Chanel: Chanel Miller is a writer and artist who received her BA in Literature from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Her critically acclaimed memoir, KNOW MY NAME, was a New York Times bestseller, a New York Times Book Review Notable Book, and a National Book Critics Circle Award winner, as well as a best book of 2019 in Time, the Washington Post, the Chicago Tribune, NPR, and People, among others. She is a 2019 Time Next 100 honoree and a 2016 Glamour Woman of the Year honoree under her pseudonym, “Emily Doe.” IG: chanel_miller To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

And through the joy and pain that our lives bring, we can do a heartache.

0:15.9

Hello everybody.

0:16.9

Okay everybody, welcome to We Can Do Heart.

0:21.1

Welcome to We Can Do Heart Things.

0:22.9

I already said that.

0:23.9

I already said that.

0:24.9

Okay.

0:25.9

So sometimes we always say we're excited about episodes and we always are.

0:31.4

Yes.

0:32.4

We love doing this.

0:33.4

We love our jobs.

0:34.4

But the person we're interviewing today, when we started this pad, which feels like about

0:38.4

six years ago, I had a top five people list of like, please just these five people.

0:46.4

And the person is my top five persons.

0:50.4

Yes.

0:51.4

People.

0:52.4

And I'll just tell you her name is Chanel Miller.

0:54.7

Okay.

0:55.7

And so I met Chanel how I meet people which is through their books.

1:01.8

Like I don't actually meet people in real life.

1:04.8

I prefer books because you can meet people without people.

1:08.2

You can close them and put them away.

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