Hello everybody and welcome back to the Football Vision podcast.

Another long eventful domestic season has come to a close.

Titles have been won, relegations confirmed, but that means one thing.

Champions League final time.

We thought we'd do something a bit different today and get two guests on the show, representing

both Barissia Dortmund and Real Madrid as we head into the final at Wembley on Saturday.

Want to know about their difference makers or where they could be vulnerable to the opposition?

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In the yellow corner, some of you will know him already.

We've got Lewis Ambrose of Ask Blog preview podcast fame in the hot seat.

He can also find writing tactics columns and other pieces on his substack, like a newsletter.

Lewis, welcome to the show.

How are your nose holding up?

I guess.

Thank you, firstly.

Nerves. I think Bruce Brucea Dortmund, when you don't expect to get into a Champions League final, or even close to one, and then you end up playing the behemoth, the Israel Madrid, in that Champions League final. I don't know, I feel like nerves, it'll probably be a bit different by Saturday, but for me, they probably go a bit hand in hand with the expectation. And right now, not to play it down, but it feels like for Dortmund, it's just quite nice to be there. That will feel very different

on Saturday. And we know that Champions League finals and massive games, heartbreak is in store more often than

not for most clubs, not for Real Madrid, obviously. But I'm still just in shock that

Brucea Dortmund are even in the Champions League final this season, I think more than anything else.

Well, let's stay on that theme, because let's be honest, I don't think many people expected Dortmund to be in this final.

And especially not when they face Athletico Madrid, they took on Paris San Jaman in the semi-final.

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