Yes, I think that was exciting when I was learning about magic.

It was like, well, this is art.

This is how artists create.

Like we're basically channeling or tapping into our higher self or our soul or our guides.

And there's like a mysterious element to it, but also a familiarity if you are creative.

You know when inspiration hits. You know when you've like tapped into that amazing flow and

you hope it lasts forever. And it's very similar when you're doing a ritual or you're channeling

for spiritual purposes. It's hard for me to separate the two out because they're very much the same.

The only way I can do that is to say one is for the purpose of creating some form of art.

And the other, witchiness, is about creating your life, co-creating your life, which also can be an art.

But when I think about it to try to define what each of those are, that's probably how I would do

that.

That was a clip from my friend Silkie's podcast.

I'm going to try my best to say this correctly,

and I'm probably going to fail quite badly.

So I will link to this in the show notes, but the name of her podcast is Leben Schenstler.

It is a German podcast, but I was the first English-speaking guest on the show, and you can listen to it

entirely in English. We talked about witchcraft and creativity, and then neither one of us knew

that the conversation would eventually turn to discussing my experience with post-traumatic stress disorder, but that's what

happens when you ask me about my past and my creative past because I'm a very creatively

driven person and PTSD is something that has been an obstacle for me in that way because the symptoms of it

emerge.

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