Let's podcast. Alongside Joe Jillio, I'm Joe Obias, inside Eifford Studios in downtown Raleigh.

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It's funny.

The thing is that you miss.

Yeah, I'm a sucker for holiday food, holiday spreads and all that fun stuff.

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I'm sure, based on, and Chip Patterson had covered three pointed this out when he was watching the look-ins for the college football playoff committee.

Every time they'd show them on TV or you saw a clip of them on the internet, you notice like they didn't have any paper.

You'd be incensed.

You, Mr. Paper, Mr. Yellow Pad, you always got that notebook with you.

There was like zero paper there.

I would imagine that they were putting all their stats into the cloud, or was it just all vibes?

It was clear that they were going to do one thing and one thing consistently,

and that was protect their last regular season ranking.

They took their last regular season ranking very seriously.

They consistently did not punish the teams who lost in the conference championship games.

Yeah.

In part because I think they knew if they had punished those teams, then there would be no

more conference championship games.

Thank you.

It's not that complicated.

You would not be able to stage them as a conference because teams would start

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