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It's time for better offline's coverage of the Consumer Electronics show,

and I am Vegas Nevada,

bringing you another episode.

It is Thursday and we're still covering CES.

We are still here with an amazing assortment of guests from the tech industry. We've got an open bar. We've got tacos at places to sit down for members of the media, whether or not they join us on the microphone. And of course, we've got some new contestants and some old contestants for revisiting guests. My first is, of course, Chloe Radcliffe, stand-up comedian and actress from her, is this thing on? You're never going to get rid of me.

I'm like bad bugs.

I love it.

I'm here forever. With Cradley Booper. And of course, Matt Binder of Mashable joins us again. Hey, three times in a row. What's up? Yeah. And then the wonderful DaVindra Hardware of Engadget. Hello, let's go. And you said you wanted to talk shit on Dell, so let's start there.

Oh, hell, yeah.

What is, give us, oh, man.

Give us the history.

So, Hello, let's go. And you said you wanted to talk shit on Dell, so let's start there.

Oh, man. Give us the history. So last year, Dell did this, the dumbest thing. I've seen a tech

company do in a very long time. They're like, hey, all these brands, you know and love,

XPS, that thing that's been selling for decades, people love it. Let's kill all that.

Right. Let's call all computers Dell, Dell Pro Max. Those names may sound familiar. They're a little Apple-y. And when that was

announced last year, I was at a press conference and Michael Dell was there announcing all of this.

And my first question to him was like, what do you have to gain by copying Apple? Like, what are you

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