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I'm Ed Zitron, and this is Better Offlines here in the Palazzo Hotel Hotel Hotel, Hotel,

in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, bringing you yet another episode covering CES with a crazy assortment of guests from the tech industry.

We've got an open bar. We've got tacos a place to sit down for members of the media and friends, whether they join us on the microphone or not. It's Friday, and we're on the first of our final two episode days. And I mean, that wasn't perfect, but you're just going to like it. Then an epilogue tomorrow, good Lord, do we have a

wonderful show for you? Or we're beginning very strong. The first contestants on the Better Offline

Challenge are the legendary activist, author, and journalist Corey Doctoro, who's joining me all

today. You speak, say hello, Corey. Oh, hello. I wasn't sure if I was meant to speak at this point.

Hi, Ed. Natural, natural. I wasn't sure if I was meant to speak at this point. Hi, Ed.

Natural, natural. And of course, returning champion, listener favorite, Sherlin Loewven Gadget. Listener. Favorite? That's a strong introduction. I'm not sure I deserve it.

It's completely changed. Actually, another listener favorite, Michael Fisher, the YouTuber and CEO of Clicks. Now, not CEO. Not CEO. Co-founder, my bad buddy. It doesn't matter. Titles, we don't do titles. We don't. It's fine. Who cares? Your holocracy, like, uh, like, Tony Shad, Los Vegas favorite son. RIP, brother, you you as Admiral. Admiral. Admiral of Clitcher.

Rear Admiral? Yeah, well, well, Vice Admiral these days. Stern, Stern, Adel. Court-martialed by the Clicks. So, all right, I've had a lot of people email in. So just to be clear, Michael's my friend. He's been on the show a lot. I've had him on in his capacity as a journalist. still here as well for that.

But you are the co-founder of clicks,

and you've got a little device. He's been on the show a lot, had him on in his capacity as a journalist. Still here as well for that.

But you are the co-founder of Clicks, and you've got a little device with you. I do, indeed. I have actually several devices. Oh, it's that thing. I like that thing. Thanks, man. I was so worried because I was like, oh, no, Corey. I'm a Canadian, so Blackberries are in my soul. Right. This is a physical keyboard for the iPhone and for Android phones, which we did get up here two years ago.

I have it on a Motorola razor now, which is fun. Flips. But the, uh, look, I love the flip. I know. You and I agree on the foldables. I just want an I, like, I message on them. I don't care. It's coming. I know. Is it? Give me a foldable iPhone. Everyone's saying the iPhone phone is this year.

I'm a hog. Give me my foldable slow. No. So you've got this thing that connects the Mac safe or the what have you. Yeah. The thing is we made custom molded cases with the keyboard attached for several iPhone, several Android. And everyone was like, this is great, but I don't carry that phone. And we were like, yeah, this is great, but it costs a lot of money to mold a custom case with a keyboard for every phone. So we broke out the keyboard into a little custom puck called Power Keys. My eye? And that makes me. Yeah, see, everyone's grabbing out their iPhones now. Corey's removing his phone from the case. I'll try it. I'll. I'll just slap it right on the back there. And it bonds via Bluetooth and gives you that. So yeah, if you find a target. My region is not. Here's your target zone there. Wait, are you, is this? Why are you giving me your phone? Oh, sorry. You do not have a magsafe. Someone hand me a device for this audio podcast.

So go ahead.

But you also have the Android device.

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