Certain and Conditional: More on Eternal Security
Ask Pastor John
Desiring God
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🗓️ 21 April 2014
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Podcast Listener Jonathan writes in with a very important question, |
| 0:08.4 | Pastor John, you tweeted recently, |
| 0:10.4 | election is unconditional, glorification is not. |
| 0:14.9 | So the certainty that the elect will be glorified, |
| 0:17.3 | rest on God's enabling. |
| 0:20.0 | This reminded me of a line in your new book, Five Points, |
| 0:22.9 | where you say essentially the same thing. |
| 0:25.2 | Election is unconditional, but glorification is not. |
| 0:29.2 | Page 63. |
| 0:31.1 | I have been having a hard time with this, |
| 0:32.4 | because Romans 8, 29 to 30 seems to say to me |
| 0:35.1 | that if we have been predestined or elected, |
| 0:37.9 | then we will also be glorified, guaranteed. |
| 0:41.2 | So how can glorification be conditional? |
| 0:44.0 | Can we be elect and yet not know if we're going to be glorified? |
| 0:48.4 | If God seems to labor to help us to know |
| 0:50.5 | that our election is secure, |
| 0:52.4 | why wouldn't he want us to think |
| 0:53.9 | that our glorification is secure as well? |
| 0:57.0 | Pastor John, can you help me with this? |
| 0:59.4 | Okay, this is really, really crucial, |
| 1:02.1 | and I'm very thankful for the question, |
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