From the Center for European Reform, this is the CEO podcast.

Poson us seriously the question of the

future that we want, and we all

all together, the courage to it construct.

For us in Germany, is the

Bekentness to the European Europe,

a part of our state's resolve.

A strong united Europe is a necessity for the world,

because an integrated Europe remains vital to our

international order. This is the moment for Europe world because an integrated Europe remains vital to our international order.

This is the moment for Europe to lead the way towards a new vitality.

Hello and welcome to the latest podcast from the Centre for European Reform.

I'm Ian Bond, the CER's Director of Foreign Policy.

This is going to be an unusual podcast for the CER in that a lot of it will be devoted to history

rather than contemporary events.

We're going to be talking about the history of the 1991 Soviet coup attempt because the

effects of this short-lived and in some respects quite farcical, Puch still reverberate today.

I'm delighted to have the chance to discuss what happened and why and what the long-term impact has been

with two great experts, Igorgens, who's now the chairman of the Board of Management of the Institute

for Contemporary Development in Moscow, and at the time was a senior official in the

Soviet Union's trade union organization, and Angela Stent, Professor Emeritus at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

And director of the Center for Eurasian, Russian and East European Studies there, who was

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