CER podcast: Russian hybrid threats

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🗓️ 24 March 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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In this week's Centre for European Reform podcast, Helmi Pillai, our (2022-23) Clara Marina O'Donnell fellow, joins our director of foreign policy, Ian Bond, to discuss hybrid threats ahead of the release of her paper on the same topic. They consider the often-disputed definitions of 'hybrid threats' and 'critical infrastructure' and the evolving story of the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines. Helmi concludes that a whole-of-society approach is crucial for the EU if member-states are to increase their resilience to Russian hybrid threats. Produced by Octavia Hughes Music by Edward Hipkins

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0:21.1	This is the moment for Europe to lead the way towards a new vitality.
0:30.6	Hello and welcome to the latest podcast from the Centre for European Reform.
0:34.6	I'm Ian Bond, the Foreign Policy director of the CER, and I'm
0:38.9	joined today by this year's Clara Marina O'Donnell Fellow at the CER, Helmi Pillai. So Helmi,
0:45.3	over the last year, Europe's been very preoccupied with a real war, a hot war in Ukraine, and
0:51.3	Russia's military attack on its neighbour. But that's not the only kind of threat that
0:56.6	Russia poses to Europe. Ever since the appearance of the so-called Little Green Men in Crimea in
1:02.1	2014, the West has also been worrying about Russia's capacity for hybrid warfare and the threat
1:08.9	to Europe's critical infrastructure and even to its democratic
1:12.6	institutions. So you've been doing some interesting research on this, which will be published
1:17.9	shortly as a CER policy brief. So perhaps I can start by asking you, what is a hybrid threat?
1:24.7	Because sometimes when I hear commentators using the term, it sounds like
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