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CER podcast: Finding a solution to the Northern Ireland Protocol

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4.452 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2022

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s Centre for European Reform podcast, Hilary Benn, Labour Member of Parliament for Leeds Central and Co-Convenor of the UK Trade and Business Commission, joins our director, Charles Grant, to discuss the stalemate between the UK and the EU over the Northern Ireland Protocol. They consider how negotiations ground to a standstill, the red lines of each side and the prospects for reaching a compromise. Both Hilary and Charles argue that this is not out of reach, provided both parties are willing to work together in good faith. Produced by Rosie Giorgi Music by Edward Hipkins

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0:00.0

From the Center for European Reform, this is the CIA podcast.

0:04.0

Poson us seriously the question of the

0:05.9

future that we want, and we all

0:08.0

all together to the courage to be construing.

0:10.5

For us in Germany, is the

0:11.9

Bekenness to the European Europe,

0:14.0

a part of our state's resolve.

0:15.6

A strong united Europe is a necessity for the world

0:17.8

because an integrated Europe remains vital to our

0:20.1

international order. This is the moment for Europe world because an integrated Europe remains vital to our international order.

0:21.3

This is the moment for Europe to lead the way towards a new vitality.

0:27.7

Welcome to this latest Centre for European podcast.

0:30.9

I'm Charles Grant, the CEO's director.

0:33.4

And I'm delighted to be joined today by Hilary Ben, MP for Leeds, who's recently written a CR paper called How to Fix the Northern Ireland Protocol, which is extremely interesting.

0:43.8

And we're going to get into the nitty gritty of how it should be fixed.

0:46.7

Before I ask him the first question about his paper, let me just say, as many people are aware, he has been a very long-serving MP since 1999.

0:55.0

He served in the cabinets of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

0:59.0

He was chairman of the Select Committee on exiting the European Union until that Select Committee was abolished,

1:04.0

because I think Boris Johnson's government thought it didn't need much scrutiny of European Union business.

1:09.0

He's now a co-convener of a commission on the UK trade

1:13.1

and business has been in Northern Ireland as in that role. I guess he may want to say a little bit

1:18.0

about what that involves. But in fact, Hillary and I have been talking about European issues

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