From the Center for European Reform, this is the CIA podcast.

Poson us seriously the question of the

future that we want, and we all

all together to the courage to it

for us in Germany. For us in Germany,

is the bequendness to the

European Europe, a part of our

state's resolve. A strong United Europe is a necessity

for the world because an integrated Europe remains vital

to our international order. This is the moment for Europe world because an integrated Europe remains vital to our international order.

This is the moment for Europe to lead the way towards a new vitality.

Welcome to the Center for European Reform podcast. I'm Leonard Schutte, a former Clara Marina O'Donnell Fellow at the CER,

and now a PhD researcher at the University of Maastricht.

With me on this podcast today are Dr. G. Yu, a senior fellow on China at Chatham House.

Sophia Besh, a senior fellow at the CER, and Ian Bond, Director of Foreign Policy at the CER.

The CER has recently published a policy brief on the triangular relationship between Europe, the US and China, and we are here today to discuss it.

We will first address the big picture of the unfolding rivalry between the US and China before discussing what Europe can do about the military confrontation,

how Europe should engage with the US and China on global issues and economic competition,

and the impact the US election may well have on the relationship.

The point of departure of our brief is that the EU can no longer conduct relations with either

the US or China in isolation of their bilateral relationship.

In both Beijing and Washington, relations with the EU

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