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The Peter McCormack Show

Censorship & State Capture with Nic Carter & Lane Rettig - WBD575

The Peter McCormack Show

Peter McCormack

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4.72.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2022

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Summary

Nic Carter is a Partner at Castle Island Ventures & Lane Rettig is a core developer for Spacemesh. In this interview, we discuss the Ethereum merge specifically addressing the issue around increasing censorship of Ethereum transactions, the chilling state attacks on privacy and what Bitcoiners could learn.

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In November 2013 Vitalik Buterin produced the Ethereum White Paper, which set out that Ethereum was to utilise the Proof of Work mechanism to facilitate participation in the transaction validation process. Eight months later, hidden away in the announcement about the Ether ICO, Vitalik stated that "We may choose later on to adopt alternative consensus strategies, such as hybrid proof of stake…".

Ethereum's merge in the first 2 weeks of September has been the biggest event in crypto this year. Part of the reason is that it has been a very long time coming. Further, it has been a huge engineering challenge: transitioning from Proof of Work to Proof of Stake in a live blockchain for the second-largest digital currency. Many predicted that it would result in technical issues. They were wrong. The merge was a success.

And yet, in the months that have followed, events have shown that just as Ethereum has sought to resolve some issues, it has caused others. Yes, Ethereum now uses significantly less energy, albeit a smaller drop in energy consumption than they would have many believe. But, evidence of a concerning concentration of staked ETH indicates that not only is the consensus becoming centralised, but it is becoming dominated by entities who are censoring transactions.

The result is a very clear distinction between Bitcoin and Ethereum. The issue at hand for Bitcoiners is that the battle to win the argument with political decision-makers over the importance of Bitcoin's energy usage is still yet to be won. But, more importantly, there are downstream centralisation and capture risks for Bitcoin. Forewarned is forearmed.


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0:00.0

You can describe proof of stake in two words.

0:05.0

Shareholders vote.

0:10.0

And guess what? That is how the world works already. I want to build a system that

0:15.6

at least has the potential to be democratizing the move towards decennialization

0:19.1

censorship resistance these properties that we care so much about and I think proof of

0:22.0

stake is a huge step in the

0:23.4

wrong direction. Hello there how are you all you having a good week? Just want to say

0:28.0

thank you to everyone who sent me an email DM or a tweet wishing

0:30.7

happy birthday also got some presents which are very kind so thank you for that

0:34.3

I'm feeling very old and interestingly we are just a couple of weeks away from the

0:38.7

podcast being five years old which I can't believe looks like we'll have done 30 million downloads in the first five

0:44.7

years which is pretty incredible. Anyway welcome to the What Bitcoin did podcast which is brought to you by

0:49.7

Gemini the only place I'm using for buying Bitcoin.

0:53.0

I'm your host Peter McCormack, and today I've got quite an interesting topic,

0:56.5

and I've got Nick Carter and Lane Retic both back on the show together to discuss this.

1:01.2

Okay, we're gonna be talking about the Ethereum merge and Nick and Lane

1:04.9

were probably the two people I wanted most on to get on and discuss this and I

1:09.7

know some of you will be like why you're covering this and theory means a shit coin is this

1:13.8

what shit coin did okay I've talked about this before I have explained it a

1:18.0

bunch of times I will always cover an alt coin if I think it gives us a lesson as a bit coiner to the future development

1:26.6

or use of bit coin I think that's an important thing to do and as we are seeing

1:30.0

arguments coming in from mainstream media and some politicians

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