CENA IS GONE WHAT WILL CHANGE? or NOTHING CHANGES (Wrestling Soup 12.16.25)

WRESTLING SOUP

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Comedy, Sports, Wrestling

4.3 • 753 Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Join Anthony and Joe as they dive deep into the latest Monday Night Raw, dissecting the fallout from John Cena’s retirement, Gunther’s controversial win, and the current state of WWE’s creative direction. From hilarious opening banter to sharp critiques of booking decisions, this episode covers it all—plus, thoughts on Logan Paul, Nikki Bella, and the future of wrestling’s biggest stars. Whether you’re a die-hard fan or a casual viewer, you’ll find plenty to laugh about and ponder in this unfiltered, passionate review. :gunshot:

00:00 – Cold Open & Banter: Reubens, fiber, and afternoon delight
01:10 – Anthony and Joe introduce the show
02:10 – Raw Recap: “Not trying” and the feeling of a series finale
03:00 – Gunther’s Booking: What did he do wrong?
05:00 – The Cena Conundrum: Why is everyone mad at Gunther?
08:00 – Storyline Analysis: Is WWE leaning on old tropes?
10:00 – The Foreign Heel: Are fans booing for the right reasons?
12:00 – WWE’s Creative Direction: Locker room reactions and missed opportunities
15:00 – Logan Paul in the Main Event: Is WWE out of ideas?
18:00 – Nikki Bella, Stephanie, and the Women’s Division
21:00 – Booking Blunders: Austin Theory, LA Knight, and crowd reactions
25:00 – WWE’s Business Model: International tours, ticket prices, and fan fatigue
28:00 – The Future of WWE: Can the product survive on hype alone?
31:00 – Side Tangents: Mr. Beast Land, Randy Orton, and Saudi Arabia
34:00 – Wrapping Up: Listener voicemails, final thoughts, and what’s next

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0:00.0	Wrestling soup.
0:03.5	I don't develop it.
0:05.5	That's a Neapolitan if you get a little blood in there.
0:09.0	I was going to say.
0:10.5	Infected?
0:13.3	And that's Monday night row, folks.
0:15.3	Have a good one.
0:16.5	That's, uh.
0:18.1	Oh, my God.
0:19.1	Fucking, dude, I, I had to catalog through Raw.
0:23.9	It was not great.
0:26.2	Not trying.
0:27.5	They are not trying, aren't they?
0:29.7	They have given up.
0:31.4	I mean, I know that was the running joke for Saturday night after the show,
0:36.5	was it feels like the season or the
0:39.3	series finale of of WWE just happened but they did themselves no favors with that
0:47.0	lackluster boring trifling through show just yes yeah that. Yeah. That was, and by the way, like now after seeing how they handled Gunther last night.
1:01.3	Yeah.
1:02.7	I got, I got thoughts.
1:05.3	I got real thoughts on this.
1:06.9	I mean, I have thoughts.
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