Welcome to the ringer NBA show. I'm Chris Varnin joining me on this Thursday is Kevin

O'Connor from the ringer.com typically joins me on Tuesdays, but he is witness to the

Celtics going down O2 to the bulls the other night. Kevin! What's going on Chris?

This feels like Tuesday. Well, it does feel like Tuesday and I had to bring you on today

because you were in that arena the other night as the Celtics lost a game to to the Chicago

bulls. Your immediate reaction after that final buzzer went off. Uh oh. They're in big trouble.

That was my immediate reaction Chris. They just look like they look like the eight seed.

That's as simple as that really. All right. So everybody is doing the post mortem on them,

right? This is what they don't have. It's really Isaiah. Nothing else. Maybe they should have made a

deal with the deadline. I I I'm skittish to do that Kevin. We have a very big sample size that the

bulls are not as good as they have been playing so far. So should I just go ahead and say, all right,

the Celtics are in massive trouble and they ain't coming back in this thing. Or do I heed to

we just had a way bigger sample than a few games that the Celtics are not as bad as they have been

so far and the bulls are not nearly as good as they have been so far. And so this thing could get

even doubt and a lot of the grand statements that we are making about the Celtics could end up

looking foolish. Should I make grand statements about the Celtics or is there what possibility is

there? Those come back to looking foolish. I think you're okay to make grand statements. And I think,

you know, you asked earlier, is it like which one is that I think it's a little bit of both. I

think I think for one, the playoffs are different. It's a different monster. I think team sometimes

play styles of play don't translate quite as well into the postseason. Sometimes teams, you know,

they end up looking better in the postseason for, you know, myriads of reasons. It can be a wide

ranging list of reasons. One of them, I think, is a guy like Rajan Rondo, like I wrote this on the

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